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Post by Joe Lyddon on May 6, 2010 9:21:52 GMT -8
I thought Lead Paint was against the law long before 1978... NO?
See ruling dated April 23, 2010
Your EPA at work!
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Post by cabinetman on May 7, 2010 0:25:25 GMT -8
This is all too familiar. Some years ago, IIRC in the mid 80's, our local county commission established an "Environmental Quality Control Board", which was the County commission.
Up to that point, I had to comply with and get inspected regularly, pay fees, get certified, licensed, register, etc., for a number of organizations, City, State, Federal, whatever.
Anyway, the new EQCB required the business owner to provide a sealed architectural floor plan of the shop showing entrances and exits, drainage grates, equipment layout, electrical plan, hazardous materials storage areas and what is used.
The requirements also stated that the owner has to provide employees with a safety program, educate them in the use of hazardous materials, and train in the use and disposal of hazardous materials and waste.
The owner has to list all chemicals used that is toxic, hazardous, flammable and non potable. The fees included a scale according to the amounts of each of those materials that are stored and used. The owner has to construct or purchase fire rated storage cabinets, or build a fire rated enclosure.
So, I figured with all the things I, as an owner has to do, what do the fees pay for? So I called their office and asked. They said that the fees covered staffing the office and issuing the permits.
I'm not sure how long ago the lead issue became a big issue. If the new rulings help in the control, that would be a good thing. Or, it may wind up just being a money maker for those government offices, and costing the contractors, subcontractors, and clients more money.
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Post by Joe Lyddon on May 7, 2010 8:02:13 GMT -8
It seems to me that Lead in paint was outlawed long before 1978. I think our house was built around 1976... I don't think ANY Lead paint was used anywhere... We added on to the house... I did NOT use any Lead paint or any other hazardous materials. Now, just because my house was built before 1978, I have to be "Sucked" for extra costs when there is no reason for it?! ( ) Lead paint went out in the 60's easy... I think... didn't it?
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Post by cabinetman on May 7, 2010 8:51:19 GMT -8
Homes built before 1950 are likely painted with lead based paint. After that, lead content was reduced. The ban came about 1977, and since 1978 it was not used.
I've got no reservations of having qualified renovators. The "certification" may be as lucid as the "Certificate of Competency", which is required in Florida for the installation of cabinetry. If a person has a business license to make cabinets, he can sell what he makes, but needs the "CC" to install.
And, the test for the "CC" requires buying the books (approx. $400-$500), and paying for the test, and the certificate. The test itself is the test for carpenters. Who woulda thunk.
So, any idiot can build a cabinet, even if it's a POS. No certification is needed.
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Post by Joe Lyddon on May 7, 2010 9:57:18 GMT -8
I think people, with any brains, didn't use lead paint when it was first known NOT to use it... I knew it was bad well before it was banned. If there is lead present, I can see the value of people, that KNOW what they're doing, do the work. But, what if there is NOT any lead present? Do I have to pay extra for something... that isn't there? That's my point...
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Post by cabinetman on May 7, 2010 10:19:05 GMT -8
I would suspect so, unless you have tests done. That will in itself will be expensive. Two years ago I replaced the ceiling tiles in the older portion of our home (1952). I got the existing loose insulation that was in the space between the tiles and the roof tested. It cost $100 to find out it was lead and toxic free. Stuff looked deadly.
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Post by Joe Lyddon on May 7, 2010 10:42:31 GMT -8
What if the Addition was added in the mid 80's? ... where I & my father-in-law did all the work? (without using Lead) How would that be handled? 1/2 with Lead & 1/2 without Lead? I hate the special treatment when I bend over...
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Post by DaveTTC on Aug 1, 2013 1:07:24 GMT -8
Interesting, my home falls into the highest risk catagory and I have paint flaking off all over the show with 3 young children 4 and under. Thanks for th link, it has made me more aware - I need to get something happening here.
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Post by cabinetman on Aug 1, 2013 3:06:12 GMT -8
Interesting, my home falls into the highest risk catagory and I have paint flaking off all over the show with 3 young children 4 and under. Thanks for th link, it has made me more aware - I need to get something happening here. The hazards of lead based paint are from ingestion and inhalation of items painted with or coated with lead in them. Direct skin contact can also be a hazard. The warnings are directed to protect individuals, especially children, from putting things in their mouth, or touching surfaces that are contaminated, and putting their fingers in their mouth. Dangers are also directed for soil contamination from substances with lead making their way there. The real problem is if those surfaces are disturbed, so particulates can get into the air. If undisturbed, there might be very little to worry about if left alone.
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Post by DaveTTC on Aug 1, 2013 15:43:03 GMT -8
This is why I think I need to do something
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Post by cabinetman on Aug 1, 2013 16:14:31 GMT -8
Yup...it looks disturbed. At a minimum, I would get some samples tested. I haven't checked, but maybe they have a DIY home test kit. They just may be next to the pregnancy test kits.
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Post by DaveTTC on Aug 1, 2013 17:17:50 GMT -8
that would be worth a try, I'll check it out, even a mail order one.
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Aug 1, 2013 21:08:54 GMT -8
Seems like heard there is DIY kit available at Home Depot...
... Yep... just checked...
Search for: lead test kit
You will find kits from $10 UP UP & away...
YES! I think you had better get some testing done, then, depending, seal that room off & carefully clean that stuff up!
If that is an older house, by all means take to your highest priority... ASAP... ... especially with that kid around it... <=====
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Post by DaveTTC on Aug 2, 2013 0:40:12 GMT -8
House dates to around 1900 give or take a decade
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Post by Joe Lyddon on Aug 2, 2013 9:34:24 GMT -8
Well, Dave, I think you KNOW what you have to do ASAP... with that cute young guy there... ;D You don't have to pay to test it... Just remove all of the paint inside your house!
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